Cfx.re Community Pulse - September 2023 Edition

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That’s a good question. I don’t think you’ll get a definitive answer here though due to variety of reasons.

You pointed out correctly there’s a lot of very suggestive advertisement through out the whole GTA lore. And as they do make fun of real life marketing companies and their output, I’m confident to say R* can get away with it simply due to 2 main reasons

  1. Their game is for adults only

  2. It is to be expected only adults (officially that is) will be targeted by any graphic content, including oversexualized ads or non graphic prostitution.

However, there’s a limit for everything. Great rule of thumb would be to keep it only suggestive, not displayed. As R* does it.

But that’s just me, guessing. People usually want such things to be kept private for a reason.

Do you remember the “Hot coffee” affair a few years ago? I personally didn’t understand what’s all the fuzz about, so I looked up a possible explanation. Here:

"There were a few reasons why people were enraged over the San Andreas Hot Coffee incident.

It was seen as a form of child sexual abuse. The Hot Coffee minigame allowed players to engage in simulated sexual intercourse with prostitutes in the game. This was particularly concerning because Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was rated M for Mature, meaning it was intended for players over the age of 17. However, many minors were known to play the game.
It was seen as a betrayal of trust. Rockstar Games had previously stated that there was no hidden adult content in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. However, the discovery of the Hot Coffee minigame proved that this was not true. This made many players feel betrayed by the company.
It was seen as a threat to the video game industry. The Hot Coffee incident reignited a long-standing debate about the appropriateness of violent and sexual content in video games. Some people argued that the incident would lead to increased government regulation of the video game industry.
The Hot Coffee incident led to a number of lawsuits against Rockstar Games, and the company was eventually forced to remove the minigame from the game. The incident also led to increased scrutiny of the video game industry by the ESRB and other organizations.

In addition to the reasons listed above, some people were also enraged by the Hot Coffee incident because they felt that it was demeaning to women. The minigame was seen as objectifying and exploiting women, and some people argued that it could contribute to a culture of misogyny.

The San Andreas Hot Coffee incident remains one of the most controversial events in video game history. It had a significant impact on the industry and led to changes in the way that video games are rated and regulated."

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Are you the same Union City that has an erotic emote menu?

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Totally agree!
That’s what I’m not sure about. At example: We use a s** script, where you can set positions and then do different sex-positions. You don’t see anything, basically the same you can see at the beach: Boobies!
Now it’s not clear if it’s forbidden and we can be banned due to this script, or if it’s fine as long as nothing is shown extremely graphic. I wish there would be more info for servers to get into the correct way.

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What’s it got to do with it? It is telling you what can or cannot be done with children’s peds

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I hope all of this is a mistake because otherwise, FiveM is doomed to lose many users.

Supposedly, in this post, they clarify that there is an update to their terms and conditions, and suddenly, “using child peds” on FiveM servers is now prohibited. So, I checked their new policy to see where this point is stated, but it’s not in their ToS. I also checked the resource posts, and people are starting to behave rudely in the posts of creators who have invested so many hours into FiveM, calling the creators unpleasant things without any valid reason.

I noticed that yesterday, the same FiveM moderator started removing posts related to babies and children from the Resources category, citing that it goes against the ToS. This is not true because it’s not mentioned in the ToS. Furthermore, I see that all the people who were being unpleasant to the creators face no repercussions, so I understand what the new values of CFX are.

If there is a real problem out there, the s*xualztn of minors or putting minors in real risk situations is something I absolutely condemn. Anyone who crosses that line should be condemned. However, I also think the same should apply to murders, drugs, hit-and-runs, violence towards animals… I am not in favor of any of these things! Yet, I understand that GTA is a game and that real life is real life. Each FiveM server has its own rules, and it should be up to them to recognize and assess that a server, even though it’s a game, should not cross the line when it comes to representing children. Banning it outright seems foolish to me. Take action against those who abuse this, but don’t suddenly apply something that isn’t even clearly stated in my ToS (if it is, please share the specific section because I couldn’t find it in the terms linked in this post, other than the original post mentioning violence in the representation of children). Also, do something about the servers that allow such behaviors without consequences for users.

Because if not, by the same logic, animals in the game, elderly people, or their representation should be prohibited. They should also ban drugs, murders… all of these things are illegal in real life, so if we’re going to ruin the game and strip it of everything, let’s do it across the board.

What a great strategy to drive players away!

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other thing is the fact the twelvies are playing an r rated game rockstar should blame parents for the that not the community by creating assests and not only that community created stuff due to shit updates from the main company all they did was car packs pretty much missions were repetitive and boring.

rip fivem and redm

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I would like to get some more clarification on the enforcement of such new TOS. As many stated before, using trademarks and 3rd party IPs was already prohibited before the new TOS became active. However, those rules were never enforced proactively and only when an IP owner sent a takedown request.

With Cfx joining R*, there might be more resources to actively monitor such TOS breaches now, but it is unclear if this changes at all.

Some could say, just remove all potentially TOS-breaking material on your server and you’re good, but that’s not how stuff plays out in the end. A lot of users state that using real-life brands is the main reason why they enjoy playing on FiveM servers, so if one server provider goes ahead and removes all of this “content” on their servers, but multiple other server providers don’t act at all this brings the risk of losing a lot of the player base.

I fully understand that mentioning a “deadline” brings legal trouble for R*/Cfx, but some inside on the enforcement process (pre-notice, full takedown, temporary block, …) would be great.

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Good news ! I think…
Can we get a better natives documentation ? What fivem has done is already huge starting from nothing, but many natives functions are still little or not documented ^^’

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4.4. Commercial Exploitation. You may not commercially exploit your use of the rights granted
under the license, UGC, or any Custom Server through any of the following methods: (1) the sale of “loot
boxes” or similar mechanics for real-world currency, cryptocurrency, or in-game currency; (2) the sale of
in-game virtual currencies for real-world currency or cryptocurrency; (3) the operation of a Custom
Server by, on behalf of, or in commercial association with, a third-party brand; (4) generating revenue
through third-party endorsements, sponsorships, or the integration of third-party promotions or
advertisements within a Custom Server; (5) facilitating the use, sale, or promotion of cryptocurrencies or
crypto assets (e.g. “NFTs”). The foregoing list is not exhaustive ; we reserve the right to modify or
amend this list at any time, and to suspend or prohibit any commercial exploitation of the Creator
Services, UGC, or any Custom Server for any reason in our sole discretion. Nothing in this Creator PLA
grants you the right to promote or imply that Your UGC (defined below) or Custom Server is “official,” or
in any way sponsored or endorsed by the Company.

Hello, on my server, players can buy “coins” on my tebex store, to buy imports cars (addon cars) in a ingame store. So if i understand… I can’t use that system anymore, and i’ll have to sell every vehicles directly on tebex? (Of course if they are not branded cars), am i right? Or “virtual currencies” means “dollars” to fight against pay to win servers? Thanks

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There are regulations that restrict and prohibit the depiction of violence or harm towards children in any form of media, including video games. There are games such as ghost recon that made child characters invincible for this reason.

We’ve seen enough roleplay servers having child characters get shot at or used in adult ways which is a big problem. There’s no excuse to use a child peds on FiveM, especially in the ways they’re being used right now. If you’re okay with it I suggest you turn yourself in to the nearest police station.

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Maybe modders will now (finally) start making some interesting Lore-Friendly cars. And not only joke-cars.

It’s almost impossible (unless you’re a modder yourself) to add vehicles to your server that aren’t an official brandname.

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I handle it as followed.

I removed all sex animations that weren’t already in Vanilla GTA (Blowjob in Car, Doggystyle etc. are all things that rockstar provides themselves).
I removed erections from the nude mods, but not nude mods. Because A: Rockstar itself has a Stripper-Minigame including nipples and character models where you see their dicks and B: Being naked isn’t sexual per se. Going to the sauna, sunbathing topless, FKK-Resorts. All these things are non-sexual but include nudity.

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You’re right, it’s a great strategy at deterring all of the pedos such as yourself off of this platform!

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How can you tell that your work is not compromised, huh?
It seems that you don’t know how to read either, you only insult people
It is very unfortunate that you label everyone as pedos,
And above all, stupid people like you go unpunished for insulting people like that.
At least I’m going to report to you.

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They made ARMA for a reason.

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Why not just make lore friendly cars like Vulcar, Nebula, or Bravado?

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Why not just play as the Rockstar made gangs like Ballas, Vagos, and Lost? No need worry about EUP Rockstar did all the work for you

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I doubt this TOS policy will cause many (if any) players/server owners to leave (unless they’re breaking the law, which if they are then good bye).

Using Child peds in a game that depicts violence, drugs, etc. is typically not allowed, and also, frankly, is just weird, why do you need a child ped in this type of game?

This seems a bit weird, “lets take away every act of violence, from a game that is designed around that violence!” kind of a weak argument.

Why would this be a better option then blanket banning it? You shouldn’t be using a Child Ped in a game that has general acts of violence.

This is seems very much like a argument falling into the false equivalence fallacy.

If people are being driven away by not being able to play a child ped… that says more about the player then anything else.

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