Concern about potential upcomming changes?

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The changes that has been mentioned, im unsure where this is posted, or if it’s even public posted, but the mentioned changes in this post is concerning.

If this change is forced globally it will cause more harm then good, there will be a lot of peoples scripts they paid for that will break, and wont get fixed because a lot of devs are no longer active, or updating older scripts.

So potentially we are standing with a huge group of server owners that will loose a LOT of money from this change.

Personally i wont be hit very hard, but globally this will hit hard, i think the best option here is to allow this to be optional, just like oal, i would advice that you rethink this, to avoid a lot of scripts being broken, and a lot of server owners that potentially looses a lot of money on scripts that will not be updated to be kept alive.

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I assume this was posted in the experiments group that you need to request access to.

I wanted to open a post myself, but I’ll use this opportunity to share my two cents:

This is such a stupid idea.

While I (as a dev) will be updating all my resources (free and paid alike) as necessary, many server owners will be left alone with many creators having abandoned their work. They might be able to add the “oal” option to their fxmanifest but that could potentially break that resource.

Second thing why this is stupid:
These announcement need to be public. I did not request access to that group for this reason:

If you would like to get access, please use the “Request” button on this page and provide us with a short explanation of how you could help us test these experimental builds.

I simply don’t have the time to test and provide feedback, so I didn’t want access in the first place. There is no reason to join if there is no time to help, right? Or should I just request access?
But this made me completely miss this post that would actually allow me to update my resources before I get a load of reports that my (older) resources are broken.

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It’s in the experiments section of the forum because it’s an experiment that needs feedback and testing.

There are a number of experiments in there that haven’t been implemented. Nothing in that section indicates that anything posted in experiments is 100% guaranteed to be implemented.

I’d suggest that rather than being an alarmist about things, you treat them as experimental (as the name of the section literally tells you) and give feedback/test them if they interest you or would affect you.

I simply don’t have the time to test and provide feedback, so I didn’t want access in the first place. There is no reason to join if there is no time to help, right? Or should I just request access?

I think the intetion is to have knowledgeable people who want to test/give feedback on potential experiments, without the peanut gallery giving random comments or asking to troubleshoot unrelated problems.

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Then I hope it will be reverted exactly because of the mentioned reason and not just some bug etc.

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I don’t think it’s implemented; the experiments section is where test builds are tested.

Usually, a test branch or download link (like in the picture) is available for feedback and discussion of potential issues/bugs/feedback that could come from knowledgeable community members.

It’s much more transparent than before, considering they even have a place to test publicly experimental stuff before it gets dropped into Canary or other “live” builds without notice.

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Poor wording on my part “it has been reverted” → “it will be reverted” (before being put to live)

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Kinda getting tired of people starting issues when none exist; it’s an experimental feature, not something that’s going to be pushed on developers without plenty of time and assurance of stability.

A multi-million dollar subsidiary of Rockstar Games is not going to push a change that would break all of the UGC on CFX (the only way they make money).

There are plenty of actual issues at CFX (enforcement mainly) but in the past month they’ve really stepped up and are trying to make it a more stable platform; don’t see any issue with that and it’s really frustrating to have to hear new “drama” every day regarding the platform.

Just create, don’t worry about gossip; that’s the one thing that WILL hold you back.

(P.S. Not saying you are intentionally starting drama, but I’m 99.99% sure you found the photo from someone who was)

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The Ctrl:V devs have previously gotten angry because volunteers did not give enough feedback before experimental features could be merged. Unless there is significant lashback against an experimental update it will be merged.

The branches don’t even make sense, because they can and should just be made available to everybody behind convars instead - and some do. There is zero consistency or criteria to what gets an experimental branch or a convar; and many of those end up being exceptionally broken.

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That is 90% of your tweets and stupid gossip videos you get involved in.

Not saying you are intentionally starting drama, but I’m 99.99% sure you found the photo from someone who was

Me pointing out that Ctrl:V want to break old scripts with a gatekept experiment that will not get significant testing and feedback before it gets merged is not “intentionally starting drama”. If they want feedback, they aren’t going to get it with a post available to a hundred people.

I know neither of you know what it’s like to have tens of thousands of servers using your resources; I will be leaving this trash platform within the year and have made several statements that my resources won’t just “suddenly stop working”. While this specific change should not affect them, I obviously can’t guarantee shit won’t just break suddenly when they push things like this.

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That is 90% of your tweets and stupid gossip videos you get involved in.

Mind you, this is the the guy who’s been leaving FiveM for the past three weeks.

Anything I’ve ever brought up regarding CFX / FiveM has always been with the intention of it improving, and with 100% sincerity.

There are creators out there making hundreds of thousands a year and upload slop; I actively talk with CFX to help create a more fair environment for creators so that nobody has an edge by cheating the system.

You however, are creating issues because you have gripes with CFX - and you try to use your community as a weapon to do so.

Me pointing out that Ctrl:V want to break old scripts with a gatekept experiment that will not get significant testing and feedback before it gets merged is not “intentionally starting drama”. If they want feedback, they aren’t going to get it with a post available to a hundred people.

It’s in a experiments channel for people who are granted access to help test upcoming features; also it’s not gatekept - you can request access to it on the forums.

Furthermore, it’s 100% trying to get a rise out of people when you ping your thousands-member discord server saying that the developers of CFX / FiveM are trying to push changes that break people’s scripts when those changes aren’t being pushed to production in the first place.

A multi-million dollar subsidiary of Rockstar Games is NOT going to push a change that would break UGC when that is the main way they make money.

I know neither of you know what it’s like to have tens of thousands of servers using your resources; I will be leaving this trash platform within the year and have made several statements that my resources won’t just “suddenly stop working”. While this specific change should not affect them, I obviously can’t guarantee shit won’t just break suddenly when they push things like this.

Yes, I don’t have tens of thousands of servers using my content (yet), however the mistake you’re making though is that you think because of this you have power - you don’t.

Overextended has been a great team that has helped create libraries for developers to create reliable content that people can use to make their resources faster.

However, ever since you removed QBCore from ox_inventory support, you’ve focused more on destroying rather than creating.

In spite of all of this I’m still really appreciative of your work, but you really need to evaluate how you are conducting yourself - when I started my Tebex I really looked up to you and the team, and I hope you’ll create the opportunity to do so once again.

In short, be kind (and love)

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Mind you, this is the the guy who’s been leaving FiveM for the past three weeks.

Quitting. As in “will quit” and have already archived most of my repos.

You however, are creating issues because you have gripes with CFX

I’m not “creating” issues, I’m simply pointing out their actions. All commits this year have been to do with monetisation - keymaster, portal, authentication, encryption; aside from community contributions.

Node22 is still unusable and they will soon make Lua unusable too.

A multi-million dollar subsidiary of Rockstar Games is NOT going to push a change that would break UGC when that is the main way they make money.

They will and have dozens of times since joining. Surprise, it got worse after losing Disquse and Gottfried.

Funny you deleted your tweets spreading transphobia.

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Bro, is there anyone on this platform that can actually keep the convo on track? I didn’t start this thread, but as a player and server owner, I can say that a lot of us are just here to build and enjoy the platform—not watch personal beefs and drama play out. We all care about the direction things are headed, so let’s try to keep the discussion focused and constructive.

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Linden, that last line wasn’t it. Regardless of whatever disagreements exist, turning a technical thread into a personal attack especially bringing in serious accusations like that is beyond out of place. These discussions are supposed to be about improving the platform, not dragging people over personal grievances or weaponizing past posts. Most of us here, devs and server owners alike, just want to stay informed, share thoughts, and keep the space productive. The more this devolves into drama, the less people want to even be part of the conversation.

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In case you can’t read, Pickle is the one who wanted to move into personal attacks in the first place.

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Where’s the personal attack? (also I responded to your comment, but alas it is awaiting approval)

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Not trying to moderate anyone, but seriously the second these threads turn into personal back-and forths, we lose the opportunity to actually address the real concerns people have. It doesn’t matter who started what or who’s got the most clout. What matters is that changes like this do have real implications for devs and server owners.

Everyone here clearly cares about the platform or we wouldn’t even be in this thread. So let’s put the energy into pushing for better communication, more transparency, and giving proper feedback not into tearing each other down.

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Yes, which is why I shared the screenshot in the original post. Other thread participants are outspoken in their hatred for nta, which leaves them blind as to how the current development team works.

I’m 99.99% sure you found the photo from someone who was [intentionally starting drama]

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I cant see a personal attack linden maybe somewhere in youre clouded mind ??
Maybe take some advice and do some yoga to clear it.

live long and prosper

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Odd, I never said it was you - how do you know that it was in reference to you?
Were you sharing this photo as well?

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Funny you deleted your tweets spreading transphobia.

I’m not hateful of anyone, everyone has their own beliefs - however when I was banned for saying I didn’t want to get involved in a (now removed) moderator’s attempt to force speech regarding gender / identity - I thought it was fair for me to make a tweet explaining what happened and what my religious beliefs are.

CFX isn’t a place for politics / cultural battles, it’s a place to create.

If you want to spread hate, go on some daytime news and do it there - they pay more.